Why?
As developers we sometimes get a bad case of the shiny new object syndrome. I hate to say it but every time I start hacking on something new, the urge to add something new is quite overwhelming. It is really tough to keep an interest in projects for a long time and it starts to become tedious the deeper you go into the weeds. I suppose this is why people list growth
as one of their top motivations.
I consider that anything new is an opportunity for growth, and doing something over and over in a similar manner quickly becomes a tedious. I’ve been building various types of scrapers since 2011, and it all started because I wanted to automate a workflow and save myself some time. The time spent on automating this was probably more than if I had done this by hand but it was interesting interacting via http
from code and crunching the data automatically.
The amount of data on the web is pretty crazy, you have various sources and multiple types of data that can be combined in very interesting ways. Back in those days dropshipping was becoming huge and people were performing arbitrage across Amazon/Ebay/local flea-markets etc.. Tools that were able to perform analytics across these shops were quite trendy, and the market was slightly less crowded, so for me building crawlers seemed like a nice idea to build out a good customer base.
Nowadays due to RAG
systems, gathering data automatically, breaking it down and feeding it into embedding models and storing it in vector databases for LLM
information enhancement has come back into the spotlight. In between then and now there have been a few changes in the way data is served up for consumption. Off the top of my head:
- single page apps have gained huge traction, most everyone turning to building their content in a
js
bundle, loading everything on the fly as the page loads - websites have become fussy about having their data used by unknown parties, so they have been closing down access and have become very litigious(#TODO: maybe add some cases of court cases Linkedin vs those guys, Financial Times vs OpenAI)
- bot detection and prevention – this one is funny since it is like a flywheel, it built 2 lucrative markets overnight – bot services and anti bot protection
- TBH, it’s difficult to predict where this might be heading, it kind of feels like people have been aiming to move all their datas into data centers but since data is becoming so guarded…will they move back to paper?
Because of SPAs
and the wide adoption of js
in websites it is much more convenient to use some sort of browser automation to crawl pages and extract the information. This makes it less prone to badgering the servers, and having to reverse engineer the page content loading, so you will probably want to use either a chrome developer tools protocol
or webdriver
flavored communications protocol with the browser. Back in the day IIRC I have also used the PyQt
bindings for acessing the Qt
browser component but nowadays its mostly straight-up browsers.
These days my goto is puppeteer
. It’s a weird tool that can be easily be used to scrape data from pages. The reason I say it is weird is mainly due to the deceiving nature of the internals, essentially using two js
engines that communicate via the cdp
protocol that is a a very dense beast and does not play nice with complex objects.
Recently it has become more appealing to me to use strongly typed languages. This is probably because I have started to narrow down my experiments to very small code samples that illustrate one thing at time. I would go as far as to call it experiment driven development. Duck typing is fun as you can print pretty much anything you want. I was thinking to use rust
but it has a very tough learning curve. Node is pretty nice with mjs
but it’s confusing sometimes when it crosses over between the two event loops, also while it is good for communicating on cdp
it is not really designed for sync code and python
is a bit boring for me so I decided to look at go
. Since it is a google language I expected it to have decent support for cdp, and the learning curve is slightly gentler than rust
.
How?
Looking at the alternatives there are two that stand out chromedp
and rod. Rod looks like it is the prodigal son of behave
and cucumber
some well established BDD frameworks. Personally I am not finding the MustYaddaYadda...
very readable and combining it with other custom APIs would probably make it become inconsistent. It has a few nice things in the way it abstracts iframes
but I am just unable to go past the higher level API.
In the end I wound up choosing chromedp
. It works pretty well for most use cases, there are some places where it doesn’t quite cut it and I wish it did, but by now I have come to terms there is no one technology to rule them all, wouldn’t it be nice if that existed?
You can install it via go get -u github.com/chromedp/chromedp
and then you can start using it in your code. It has quite a few submodules and related projects that you may want to use depending on your concrete use case.
Generally if your use case is only data extraction and you have no tricky actions to deal with(page is bot resistant, some elements are loaded at later times, iframe
hell etc…).
import ( "context" "log" "time" "github.com/chromedp/chromedp" "github.com/chromedp/cdproto/cdp" // for slightly more advanced use cases "github.com/chromedp/cdproto/browser" "github.com/chromedp/cdproto/dom" "github.com/chromedp/cdproto/storage" "github.com/chromedp/cdproto/network"
)
The pleasant surprises
Well, calling them surprises is a bit of a stretch, I have been golang
over the years and I have to admit it is a pretty nice ecosystem and language. chromedp
automates chrome or any binary that you are able to communicate with via cdp
. The API is somewhat intuitive, haven’t found myself diving into the guts of it very often to figure out how stuff works. The good part is that once you extract the data from the nodes you are interested in you can map it to go structs and make use of the go typing system.
For example you can grab a list of elements via selector:
var productNodes []*cdp.Node if err := chromedp.Run(ctx, // visit the target page chromedp.Navigate("https://scrapingclub.com/exercise/list_infinite_scroll/"), chromedp.Evaluate(script, nil), chromedp.WaitVisible(".post:nth-child(60)"), chromedp.Nodes(`.post`, &productNodes, chromedp.ByQueryAll), ); err != nil { log.Fatal("Error while trying to grab product items.", err) }
then map each element to a struct
for _, node := range productNodes { if err := chromedp.Run(ctx, chromedp.Text(`h4`, &name, chromedp.ByQuery, chromedp.FromNode(node)), chromedp.Text(`h5`, &price, chromedp.ByQuery, chromedp.FromNode(node)), ); err != nil { log.Fatal("Error while trying to grab product items.", err) } products = append(products, Product{name: name, price: price}) }
Another nice perk is that go is built with concurrency in mind so crunching the extracted data can be a lot more performant than in puppeteer.
Yet another pretty nifty thing I found is that you can deliver a binary that can be compiled for multiple platforms and can be distributed easily. This is a huge plus given that you may not really know who the user of the tool might be in the end.
The ugly parts
The way to communicate with the browser is still through the cdp
protocol and sometimes you need to pass objects only objects that can be serialized.
If you need to work with objects that can’t be serialized you will need to inject js
into the page context and interact with it.
When you have a page that contains iframes
it is problematic to trigger events on the elements inside them. You can extract data from it but triggering events gets messy as you need js
for that.
An example of how you might extract data from an iframe
might look something like this:
var iframes []*cdp.Node if err := chromedp.Run(ctx, chromedp.Nodes(`iframe`, &iframes, chromedp.ByQuery)); err != nil { fmt.Println(err) } if err := chromedp.Run(ctx, chromedp.Nodes(`iframe`, &iframes, chromedp.ByQuery, chromedp.FromNode(iframes[0]))); err != nil { fmt.Println(err) } var text string if err := chromedp.Run(ctx, chromedp.Text("#second-nested-iframe", &text, chromedp.ByQuery, chromedp.FromNode(iframes[0])), ); err != nil { fmt.Println(err) }
But in order to trigger events on elements inside the iframe you can’t just use the chromedp
API, and since chromedp.Evaluate
does not take a Node
as context you will need to perform all the actions in javascript
and that will make the resulting code a bit of a mishmash of go
and js
.
puppeteer
also has some extra packages that can be used like puppeteer-stealth
but chromedp
does not seem to have an equivalent for that at this time. The rod
package has rod stealth
but I haven’t tried it since the API is not to my liking.
The other slightly dissappointing missing feature is that when running in headless mode all the GPU features are disabled because it is running in a headless-chrome
container which does not have a display server. Puppeteer is able to run with GPU features enabled allowing it to pass the webgl fingerprinting
tests.
Conclusion
- in some ways puppeteer is still better than
chromedp
, working withiframes
falls short -
rod
is a nice alternative but its API looks like it was designed for testing, reminds me ofcucumber
-
chromedp
is a nice alternative topuppeteer
if you are looking to build a binary that can be distributed easily - it is a bit more performant than
puppeteer
due to the concurrency model ingo